Posted:
Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:23 pm Post subject:
anyone heard of ixp.net???
hey, i was just checking if anyone had heard of ixp.net. it is supposidly the next new best thing. Does anyone have and feedback on why i should choose it or why i shouldn't? i would love a response, thanks
MAtt
the website is www.ixp.net/aripperdan
Posted:
Fri Jul 02, 2004 1:25 pm Post subject:
The next best thing?
The next best thing? I dont know about that man, it seems like it offers the same things that others are offering but at $8.99, which is good compared to aol n msn, but there are better ones out there. They have a seems to be webmaster's who know designing, but they are new to the work of isp.
Just an option. I might not get my designing done by them.. hehe.. just joking. Good guys.
Posted:
Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:16 am Post subject:
ixp
I just got ixp from a friend..
it's pretty nice...
the guy before me got the price right, but i was sold on features like
- free tech support (I've called it twice and had less than 1 minute of hold time each)
- nice email.... this email system is the same that is being bought some fortune 500 companies....its nice.
- best of all
they're the only isp i know of w\ a shopping mall as they have....im talking ANY decent size place is on there, and everytime you buy something from them, you get money back...ixp literally sends you a check everytime you get 10 bucks in your cash-back account....i've done it quite a few times already ....
I just became a rep and can get better prices because i get them through the company....on the high speed deal anyways... (13.50 per month if prepaid annually, 14.90 if monthly)...
If anyone is interested, drop me a line @ ryaninternational@ixp.net
Posted:
Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:09 pm Post subject:
IXP is for real
The cash back rewards works great. I bought a computer off dell and was paid back for what a computer i was going to purchase anyway. the customizable homepage is cool as well. If you get IXP check out the cartoon display, its sweet. they also have good deals on yearly plans. contact this guy JBARLEY@IXP.NET. He sold me a one year then i gave him a few names of some of my friends and he turned that into a two year plan (b/c you receive a free month for each new customer you sign up). talk about a deal!!!! I ended up getting two years for the price of one. it works out to be only 6.75 a month for high speed!!! man you just can't beat that.
Posted:
Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:16 am Post subject:
IXP is a multi level scam
IXP is a bad company with a terrible reputation and is run by deceptive owners who have had to shift their recruitment efforts from the west coast to the east coast and latin america because of deceptive practices that created horrible reputation and brought complaints and lawsuits.
Check out the federal trade commission site, ftc.gov, and type in a search on 2by2.net. Here you will find that IXP used to be called 2by2.net until they lost an 11 million dollar verdict in a lawsuit brought against them by the FTC.
They were found guilty of fraudulent business practices. Part of the settlement forces them to post a link to the report on the ixp webpage. Read it if you want to know their history. Of course, they try to minimize it and scapegoat previous leaders and reps for the trouble.
Also, FOX 11 news ran an undercover expose piece on them in Feb of 2002. This revealed many of the deceptive practices that were taught by the company to mislead potential customers and reps.
If you want to see the stories of reps who got ripped off, go to google and search for 2by2.net sucks forum, which will be at network 54.
Due to the enormous bad word of mouth and bad rep of the name, they "reinvented" themselves as ixp.net. Nothing changed except the name.
You can also go to ripoffreport.com to learn more.
Search under 2by2.net, ixp.net, luis arriaza, team big mo, and dennis wong. These are names of leaders and the founder.
Finally, go to the better business bureau website at bbb.com and search under 2by2.net. There you will find they have a negative rating due to unresolved customer complaints.
Posted:
Wed Sep 22, 2004 11:18 am Post subject:
Don't Hate
To "former rep"~
The company is different from what it was in the "2by2" years. Trust me I've asked Dennis Wong about it. I have also done my own research about the company and about 2by2.
If you also look at the BBC, you also see that Walmart and Disney are also on there as Unsatisfactory. Also, the lawsuit from the FTC has been cleared up and been paid for.
I have been with IXP.NET for over a year now. I have not done or seen anything that would compromise my belief in the company. Maybe the reason your so bitter is that you ran across someone who was with the company that mis-represented us. and maybe also because you didn't make any money, and that is no one but your own fault.
Posted:
Sat Sep 25, 2004 5:34 am Post subject:
Not hating, just telling the truth
Thanks for the reply, rep. Im sure you are doing things honestly. I commend you for that. I also commend you for "thinking outside of the box" and trying something different.
I was the same way when I was in ixp for 3 years. I did make money. I was one of the "top producers" of the Team Think Big leadership team,
During that time we were privvy to info that most reps dont hear. As Dennis called it, "The Meat". Most reps he said could only handle "baby food", but we got the real "stuffs".
Heres the deal. I have know Dr Arriaza, Dennis' right hand man for over a decade. Much of the bad recruiting and unethical practices rampant in the company were taught by Dennis to his leaders and then spread from there,
These men pump you up with a false dream. At the HEYDAY of the co, when Dr Arriaza was THE top producer of the company, he was not making much money. Their best month netted him about 10 grand after expenses. He works about 14 hours a day, neglects his wife and kid, yet tells you you can do this biz and one of your great perks will be "all the time you get to spend with your family.
Its all smoke and mirrors. There is no residual income for these guys. Its still off new recruits and loading.
And as for your argument that Disney and walmart have complaints against them, what does that prove? Your argument there is a red herring. It does not invalidate the complaints, not does it invalidate the lawsuit, the terms of which are constantly broken by reps to this day.
And just think, why do you think Dennis changed the company's name? The REPUTATION was so bad with customers AND former reps that he had to. In CA people are interested in the idea of ixp until they find out its real name, whose rep have proceeded it.
Just watch those guys closely and, as they both say, the truth will eventually reveal itself.
Posted:
Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:26 am Post subject:
IXP is evil
I was a rep during the 2by2 to IXP crossover. I fell for all the hype, got some friends involved before coming to my senses and realizing the truth - i was just shafting them out of their money through recruitment the same way I was shafted. No one made any money, all the money went straight to the top into the founders pockets, and then was occasionally dispersed to some top reps in the form of bonuses. The entire thing was a lie, the income, the spirituality, the cars, the success it was all fake. They are a horrible company, and I am glad that the federal trade commission fined them for deceptive practices. The only thing that wasn't fictional was the internet service, which although value priced didn't exactly WOW me or anyone else. Customer retention was almost nil, and if you truly found out how many customers a seasoned rep had it was almost always 2, the minimum needed for certification and was usually an account they use, and one their mother uses. My advice for anyone considering joining is - DONT - I spent over 2500 dollars total on a 3-spot, marketing materials, travel expenses, mandatory trainings, and a couple of 300 dollar cell phone bills for daily mandatory leadership conference calls. IXP is an evil community of selfish people, who pretend to be your mentor and best friend in the business, but lie straight to your face just to get your money and then leave you to dry -
F.Y.I. If you are truly interested in a solid MLM company I know a guy who is in Quixtar and has had some solid success with it (last year he grossed 60k). I don't know enough about them to personally endorse them, but they appear to be what 2by2 originally tried to model themselves after but couldn't pull it off ethically.
Posted:
Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:28 pm Post subject:
Re: IXP is evil
jajajaja... It is very visible that you were a member of IXP who failed in the business, who was not to have successful and which left it because you did not have the necessary perseverance. IXP is not a fraud, and we are living through it here in Latin america where IXP is growing increasingly. I am less than 4 months in this business and have multiplied by 5 the investment that I did, and others make it in less time than I!...
The company is totally serious, if they say to you that they pay you for doing a match, they pay you. If they say to you that they give you bonus of duplicity on having acquired a level of leadership, they pay you. If they say to you that they pay commissions to you for purchases that you do in the virtual mall, they pay you. If they say to you that they pay you for the purchases that there do the members of your community, they pay you ... then where is the fraud??!!...
Please, instead of complaining about IXP has cheated you, ask to you if you were not the sufficiently capable of making to function your business... IXP give you a model, depends on you how much on this model you are capable of exploiting.
IXP Member
Latin America
Former IXP rep Chicago wrote:
I was a rep during the 2by2 to IXP crossover. I fell for all the hype, got some friends involved before coming to my senses and realizing the truth - i was just shafting them out of their money through recruitment the same way I was shafted. No one made any money, all the money went straight to the top into the founders pockets, and then was occasionally dispersed to some top reps in the form of bonuses. The entire thing was a lie, the income, the spirituality, the cars, the success it was all fake. They are a horrible company, and I am glad that the federal trade commission fined them for deceptive practices. The only thing that wasn't fictional was the internet service, which although value priced didn't exactly WOW me or anyone else. Customer retention was almost nil, and if you truly found out how many customers a seasoned rep had it was almost always 2, the minimum needed for certification and was usually an account they use, and one their mother uses. My advice for anyone considering joining is - DONT - I spent over 2500 dollars total on a 3-spot, marketing materials, travel expenses, mandatory trainings, and a couple of 300 dollar cell phone bills for daily mandatory leadership conference calls. IXP is an evil community of selfish people, who pretend to be your mentor and best friend in the business, but lie straight to your face just to get your money and then leave you to dry -
F.Y.I. If you are truly interested in a solid MLM company I know a guy who is in Quixtar and has had some solid success with it (last year he grossed 60k). I don't know enough about them to personally endorse them, but they appear to be what 2by2 originally tried to model themselves after but couldn't pull it off ethically.
Posted:
Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:32 am Post subject:
read others explanations
To the rep in latin america,
I understand what you say about getting paid match pay. If you read the FTC lawsuit, which you may not be aware of because ixp does not post the link automatically on the websites in latin am which they are required by law to do so in the US, you will see that the corruption in the company is well documented and not just the ravings of a few "failed businessmen" as you assert.
Secondly, in Columbia there has been a huge revolt of disgruntled reps who felt they were tricked by the company leaders. This group included lawyers and people in the entertainment industry. So all is not perfect in L. Am
Finally, all you talked about was getting paid for matches.
That is why this company is a scam. When you get paid just for these match bonuses, you are involved in a Ponzi or pyramid scheme.
Especially in L Am because I know that in many areas they do not have any ISP connections, no spanish malls, the products cannot be shipped there, and therefore YOU ARE GETTING PAID ONLY FOR RECRUITING.
That is where the bulk of money comes from, which makes it a pyramid scheme. You just proved our points and the point of the FTC. Thank you.
Posted:
Wed Oct 27, 2004 8:54 pm Post subject:
Ixp.net
Hello my name is ben jessee and I am a representative of IXP.net. We offer 56k dial up for 9.95/mo, with a personalized homepage, pop-up blocker, cash back when you shop online, a free month of service if you refer someone else to the service, and a 10mb e-mail. We also offer High Speed Dial up for 14.90. Soon we will be lauching Voice over IP.
Get back with me at benjessee@ixp.net
Posted:
Sat Jan 01, 2005 5:03 pm Post subject:
ixp does not pay
I got these stats off the ixp website when I did a mock sign up process online just to see if there was any different info given there then the people gave at the big hotel meeting where my friend tried to sign me up. This is a verbatim copy from one of the sign up pages, and it gives some really SCARY stats. Check it out.
3. THE NUMBER OF CURRENT IXP.NET DISTRIBUTORS WHO HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMISSIONS, BONUSES OR OVERRIDES IS 2,289 OR 69.65% OF SUCH DISTRIBUTORS.
WOW! That means there are less than 3300 reps TOTAL worldwide in IXP, and out of those almost 2300 have not made a single PENNY!
4. THE MEDIAN AMOUNT OF COMMISSIONS, BONUSES AND OVERRIDES RECEIVED BY ALL CURRENT DISTRIBUTORS IN IXP.NET IS $0.00. 69.65% OF ALL CURRENT DISTRIBUTORS HAVE RECEIVED, IN THE AGGREGATE, LESS THAN THIS AMOUNT. 30.35% OF ALL CURRENT DISTRIBUTORS HAVE RECEIVED, IN THE AGGREGATE, MORE THAN THIS AMOUNT.
Imagine if they told us this at the hotel meeting! "By the way, 70% of us make absolutely no money at this." Check out the next one to see what is worse!
5. THE AVERAGE AMOUNT OF COMMISSIONS, BONUSES AND OVERRIDES THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED BY ALL CURRENT IXP.NET DISTRIBUTORS IS $738.31.
Hahahahaha. The average TOTAL amount of commissions when someone actually does get paid is only a little over 700 bucks. Sounds like big money to me! And that is over the last fiscal quarter, not per week or month!
After I saw this, I asked my friend why they didnt tell us about it at the meeting and he said he didnt even know this. he thought people were making a lot more. I guess they don't, becuase these stats came right from any reps website if you act like you are going through the sign up process. Try it and you will see to.
Posted:
Thu Jan 27, 2005 1:16 am Post subject:
total scam
An friend of mine tried to get me involved in 2002 and the only reason I went to the big meeting in a hotel was becasue I trusted him and figured it wouldn't hurt to see what the company was about. Luckily I realized prety fast but not fast enough that it was a complete scam. These guys were trying to make it sound way to good to be true and I never got fully involved in it. Unfortunately I lost a couple of hundred dollars for start up fees but I wised up real quick and just dropped it all together. For the short period of time that I was involved, 2by2.net was trying to get established in Latin America and my friend was involved in this. I see him now and he doesn't look like he has had any success and is in the same place he's been for years except without lots of money invested and time wasted. 2by2.net and ixp.net are the same crap and all it is is just smoke to blind the ignorant and take their money.
No matter what you current reps say that you have success, a company is not investigated by the FTC because they are practicing good business techniques. And a company doesn't change their name like that for no reason; they know they have a bad rep and are constantly moving on to new places so that they won;t be discovered but it will catch up to them eventually.
Posted:
Fri Feb 04, 2005 9:55 am Post subject:
IXP is for winners!
guys!... IXP is for winners!... IXP is not for losers!... If you don't have success in IXP, it's because you don't work, you don't follow tha system, you don't listen to your leaders and you don't help to your team!... I don't want to convince to you, IXP is not for you...
This message is for the new people that are searching information to decide to be a IXP member: IXP is not a fraud, IXP give to you all tools necessary to win... depends on you if you are capable of and want to be successful!... When I have a new rep in my organization, I don't promise to him that he will be a millionaire!... I promise him my help!... IXP give you the vehicle to the success, depends on you if you learn to drive it!
I have a 200 people organization in Latin America, but not all my reps are successful, statistics are true, because only some few ones have the necessary thing for to be successful: Positive attitude. If you have positive attitude, you will be successful!... If you don't have positive attitude, don't worry... IXP is not for you!... Thanks.
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